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<br>OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) - Elon Musk's [attorneys](https://git.mikorosa.pl) took on with OpenAI in court Tuesday as a [federal judge](https://bethanycareer.com) [weighed](https://ferndaleradio.com) the [billionaire's](http://alvicmazatlan.com) ask for a court order that would block the [ChatGPT maker](https://orospublications.gr) from [converting](https://afrospice.co.za) itself to a [for-profit company](https://www.studioagnus.com).<br>
<br>U.S. [District Judge](https://git.jpsoftware.sk) Yvonne [Gonzalez Rogers](https://www.washroomcubiclesdirect.co.uk) said it was a "stretch" for Musk to claim he will be [irreparably damaged](https://sarehat.com) if she doesn't [intervene](http://truewordministries.org) to stop OpenAI from [progressing](http://www.holzchirurgie.de) with its shift from a [nonprofit lab](https://visscabeleireiros.com) to a [for-profit corporation](https://beta.talentfusion.vn).<br>
<br>But the judge also [raised issues](https://www.mehmetdemirci.org) about OpenAI and its [relationship](https://www.xentromalls.com) with [business partner](http://www.paradiseacademy.it) [Microsoft](https://newgramola.com) and said she would not stop the case from [transferring](http://git.viicb.com) to trial as soon as next year so a jury can decide.<br>
<br>"It is possible that what Mr. Musk is saying holds true. We ´ ll learn. He ´ ll sit on the stand," she said.<br>
<br>Musk, an early [OpenAI investor](https://www.apollen.com) and board member, took [legal action](https://beta.talentfusion.vn) against the [artificial intelligence](http://61.178.84.898998) [company](https://www.studioat.biz) in 2015, first in a [California](https://bahnreise-wiki.de) state court and later on in [federal](http://secondsauctions.com) court, [declaring](https://boaconexao.com.br) it had actually [betrayed](https://www.dsphotoshoot.com) its [starting aims](https://flamingoinnhotel.com) as a [not-for-profit](https://shelterasset.com) research [study laboratory](http://rvfumigacion.com) [benefiting](https://randershandelsraad.dk) the general public good. Musk had [invested](https://fermatsweden.se) about $45 million in the [start-up](http://120.237.152.2188888) from its [founding](http://grandstream.ec) until 2018, his lawyer said Tuesday.<br>
<br>[Musk escalated](http://www.sk-si.com) the [legal dispute](http://demo.ynrd.com8899) late in 2015, adding [brand-new claims](https://www.publicistforhire.com) and [accuseds](https://hydroniclift.it) and [requesting](https://iburose.com) a court order that would stop OpenAI ´ s plans to [convert](http://28skywalkers.com) itself into a [for-profit business](https://gogs.kakaranet.com) more fully. Musk likewise [included](https://www.randommasters.com.au) his own [AI](https://gs-chemical.com) business, xAI, as a [plaintiff](http://www.dutchairbrush.nl).<br>
<br>Also [targeted](https://git.mista.ru) by [Musk's claim](https://www.electropineida.com) is [OpenAI's](https://tokorouta.com) close [organization](https://www.dinamicaspartan.com) [partner Microsoft](https://autonomieparleslivres.com) and [tech entrepreneur](http://styleat30.com) Reid Hoffman, a previous [OpenAI board](http://kurzy-test.agile-consulting.cz) member who likewise rests on [Microsoft's board](https://www.velabattery.com).<br>
<br>[Gonzalez](https://www.webdesignfree.org) Rogers said she has a high bar for [approving](https://redols.caib.es) the type of [initial injunction](https://peterplorin.de) that Musk wants however hasn't yet ruled on the [request](http://gitlab.ileadgame.net). She did say she had "substantial concerns" with two [people connected](http://gomirleft.100webspace.net) to [Microsoft](https://www.kids.hu) on [OpenAI's board](http://wwitos.com) - [Hoffman](http://thedongtay.net) and long time [Microsoft executive](http://8.222.247.203000) Deanna Templeton, who was a "non-voting observer."<br>
<br>"So you want me to think that she was sitting there listening to all the discussions and not informing anyone? What would the point be for her to sit there and listen to everybody, if not to communicate what she was listening? There would be no point for her to be there, which is why she actually needs to not be there," she said.<br>
<br>Hoffman, a [co-founder](https://soucial.net) of LinkedIn, has actually been on [Microsoft](http://teachboldly.org) ´ s board since [shortly](http://124.222.238.13810080) after the tech huge bought the [task networking](https://www.xafersjobs.com) [website](https://thequest4knowledge.com). He [stepped](http://1obl.tv) down from [OpenAI's board](https://svaurora.us) in 2023 to [prevent](http://vytale.fr) [conflicts](http://www.vaimumaailm.ee) with his [AI](http://www.tenelshof.nl) start-up, [Inflection](http://www.pepijngriffioen.nl).<br>
<br>Templeton, who Musk also named as an accused, was [included](https://www.aicgworld.com) as a [non-voting](http://fsr-shop.de) member of OpenAI ´ s board in the [after-effects](https://beta.talentfusion.vn) of Altman ´ s ouster after [Microsoft CEO](https://www.jjldaxuezhang.com) [Satya Nadella](http://00mall.biz) sought more [stability](https://dubairesumes.com) on the board. But months later, she was [dropped](https://boardconnectwi.org) from the [OpenAI board](http://1proff.ru) as U.S. [antitrust enforcers](http://chorale-berdorf-consdorf.lu) were [expressing](https://prakash.nucigent.co.uk) [concerns](https://www.otomatiqa.com) about such [arrangements](https://git.szrcai.ru) on [corporate boards](https://myhcpna.org).<br>
<br>The judge has dealt with a [variety](https://medicalinnovations.com) of [tech industry](https://ponceletsmechanicalinc.ca) cases [including Apple's](https://kv-work.com) battle with Epic Games, though she said Tuesday that Musk's case is "absolutely nothing like" that a person. That case was likewise the last time she gave a [preliminary](https://www.mgvending.it) injunction, in 2020, 8 months before the case went to trial.<br>
<br>[Then-President Barack](http://ielpin.ru) [Obama selected](http://platformafond.ru) [Gonzalez Rogers](https://www.ishimitsu.com.mx) to the [federal bench](https://donaldchristman.com) in 2011.<br>
<br>[Tuesday's hearing](https://ponceletsmechanicalinc.ca) was [initially](https://zubtalk.com) set for January but was [postponed](https://tokorouta.com) after [Musk's attorney](https://islamujeres.cancun-catamaran.com) [Marc Toberoff](http://aobbekjaer.dk) said his house was [destroyed](https://www.westcarver.com) in the [Pacific Palisades](https://mikrescyclades.com) [wildfire](https://blog.weightless10.com).<br>
<br>Musk, who did not [participate](https://www.ortodoncistasasociadosvzla.com) in the hearing, has actually [alleged](https://joueb.micr0lab.org) in the claim that the [business](https://www.logomarcaflorianopolis.com.br) are [breaking](https://gitea.oio.cat) the terms of his [foundational contributions](https://www.kajzen.ch) to the [charity](http://winbaltic.lv). [Judge Gonzalez](https://bachngo.com) Rogers called it a "stretch" to claim "permanent harm" to Musk, and called the case "billionaires vs. billionaires." She [questioned](http://wiki.die-karte-bitte.de) why [Musk invested](https://www.leaperlanders.it) tens of [millions](https://gitlab.rail-holding.lt) in OpenAI without a written [contract](https://castingtermsekr.edublogs.org). [Toberoff](http://1obl.tv) said it was because the [relationship](https://www.publicistforhire.com) in between Altman and Musk at the time was "built on trust" and the two were [extremely close](http://pmcdoors.by).<br>
<br>"That is simply a lot of money" to invest "on a handshake," the judge said.<br>
<br>OpenAI has actually said Musk ´ s asked for court order would "disable OpenAI ´ s organization"and [mission](https://thequest4knowledge.com) to the [benefit](https://ponceletsmechanicalinc.ca) of Musk and [systemcheck-wiki.de](https://systemcheck-wiki.de/index.php?title=Benutzer:MargaretteEve9) his own [AI](http://114.115.218.230:9005) [company](https://medoshop.si) and [setiathome.berkeley.edu](https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view_profile.php?userid=11815292) is based on "far-fetched" [legal claims](https://topteamwork.nl).<br>
<br>At the heart of the [dispute](https://www.equipoalianza.com.ar) is a 2017 [internal power](https://media.izandu.com) battle at the recently [established startup](https://touriststate.com) that led to Altman ending up being OpenAI ´ s CEO<br>
<br>. [Emails revealed](https://beats.audiogenes.com) by OpenAI [reveal Musk](https://pibarquitectos.com) had actually also sought to be CEO and [grew frustrated](http://122.51.230.863000) after 2 other OpenAI [co-founders](https://www.keeperexchange.org) said he would hold too much power as a significant [investor](https://www.kaminfeuer-oberbayern.de) and [primary executive](https://play.fecles.com) if the [start-up prospered](https://aquirola.com.br) in its goal to [attain better-than-human](http://www.holzchirurgie.de) [AI](https://merokamato.gr) [understood](https://tokorouta.com) as general intelligence, or AGI. Musk has long [voiced concerns](https://parhoglund.com) about how [advanced forms](https://sacha-tebo.art) of [AI](https://energypowerworld.co.uk) could [threaten](https://git.eisenwiener.com) [humanity](https://www.clinicadentalcobos.com).<br>
<br>[Altman ultimately](https://selfdirect.org) [succeeded](http://shop-lengorgaz.tmweb.ru) in ending up being CEO and has [remained](http://truewordministries.org) so except for a [duration](https://viralgo.net) in 2023 when he was fired and after that [reinstated](https://lungnancy11.edublogs.org) days later on after the board that ousted him was [changed](https://noticias.solidred.com.mx).<br>
<br>OpenAI has actually sought to show Musk ´ s early [support](https://bergingsteknikk.no) for the [concept](https://www.villerthegarden.com) of making OpenAI a [for-profit company](https://bmj-chicken.bmj.com) so it might [raise money](https://peterplorin.de) for the [hardware](http://47.107.80.2363000) and computer power that [AI](http://3bijouxcreation.fr) needs.<br>
<br>Musk is not the only one [tough OpenAI's](http://kolamproductions.com) [for-profit](https://schubach-websocket.hopto.org) shift. [Facebook](http://aobbekjaer.dk) and [Instagram parent](http://git.armrus.org) [Meta Platforms](https://sarehat.com) has asked [California's](https://noticias.solidred.com.mx) [attorney](https://activeaupair.no) general of the United States to block it, and the [workplace](http://xn--80ahlcanuudr.xn--p1ai) of [Delaware's attorney](https://aicreator24.com) general has said it is [evaluating](http://www.vaimumaailm.ee) the [conversion](https://aseelindustrial.com).<br>
<br>It was [unclear](http://rockcitytrustcompany.com) Tuesday when the case may go to trial. [Musk's legal](https://rijswijktalentaward.nl) [representatives initially](http://www.otticafocuspoint.it) said they would be [prepared](https://sajl.jaipuria.edu.in) by June after some [back-and-forth](http://shuriklimited.com) with the 2 sides the judge showed it probably will not be up until June 2026 at the earliest, however likely early 2027.<br>
<br>[O'Brien](https://ermelogolf.nl) reported from Providence, [Rhode Island](https://joueb.micr0lab.org).<br>
<br>OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) - Elon [Musk's attorneys](http://agilityq.com) took on with OpenAI in court Tuesday as a [federal judge](https://iec-srl.it) [weighed](https://archidonaturismo.com) the [billionaire's](http://szfinest.com6060) ask for a court order that would [obstruct](http://101.43.18.2243000) the [ChatGPT maker](http://101.109.41.61) from [converting](https://chat.gvproductions.info) itself to a [for-profit](https://www.volierevogels.net) [company](https://www.petr-spacek.cz).<br>
<br>U.S. [District Judge](http://www.thekaca.org) Yvonne [Gonzalez Rogers](https://www.alexyoung.dk) said it was a "stretch" for Musk to claim he will be [irreparably damaged](https://www.intertradelink.net) if she does not [intervene](http://47.101.46.1243000) to stop OpenAI from moving on with its [transition](http://www.jackiechan.com) from a [nonprofit lab](http://git.jzmoon.com) to a [for-profit](https://www.steelkonstrukt.cz) [corporation](https://analyticsjobs.in).<br>
<br>But the judge likewise [raised concerns](http://scoalahelegiu.ro) about OpenAI and its [relationship](http://106.55.61.1283000) with [service partner](http://periscope2.ru) [Microsoft](https://ruofei.vip) and said she wouldn't stop the case from [relocating](https://social.mirrororg.com) to trial as quickly as next year so a jury can decide.<br>
<br>"It is plausible that what Mr. Musk is stating holds true. We ´ ll find out. He ´ ll rest on the stand," she said.<br>
<br>Musk, an early [OpenAI investor](https://repo.farce.de) and board member, took [legal action](http://47.108.69.3310888) against the [synthetic intelligence](https://aalstmaritiem.nl) [company](https://namoshkar.com) in 2015, [initially](https://www.nethosting.nl) in a [California](https://listingindia.in) state court and later in [federal](https://social.mirrororg.com) court, [declaring](https://www.oemautomation.com8888) it had [betrayed](http://47.244.181.255) its founding aims as a [nonprofit](http://dubaibuggy.net) research [lab benefiting](http://vmwd.com) the general public good. Musk had actually [invested](http://basburger.net) about $45 million in the [start-up](http://cormaq.com.bo) from its [starting](https://wildflecken-camps.de) up until 2018, his [attorney](https://youarealways.online) said Tuesday.<br>
<br>[Musk intensified](https://pakjobz1.com) the [legal dispute](http://154.64.253.773000) late last year, [adding brand-new](https://www.thebradshawcrew.net) claims and [defendants](http://sonntagszeichner.de) and asking for a court order that would stop OpenAI ´ s [prepares](https://thutucnhapkhauthietbiyte.com.vn) to [convert](http://www.recirkular.com) itself into a [for-profit service](https://spiritofariana.com) more fully. Musk also added his own [AI](http://kikiundandireisenumdiewel.apps-1and1.net) company, xAI, as a [plaintiff](https://www.satepneumatici.it).<br>
<br>Also [targeted](http://pchelps.by) by [Musk's claim](https://stpe.co.za) is [OpenAI's](http://tonik-libra.pl) [close service](https://www.cortedeidonno.it) [partner Microsoft](https://diederichpropertiesinc.com) and [tech business](http://www.clearfast.co.uk) [owner Reid](https://doctorately.com) Hoffman, a previous [OpenAI board](http://ismteresadecalcuta.com.ar) member who also rests on [Microsoft's board](https://ihsan.ru).<br>
<br>[Gonzalez Rogers](https://www.hatchinbrackets.com) said she has a high bar for [approving](http://rendart-dev.pl) the kind of [initial injunction](https://www.speech-language-voice.com) that Musk wants but hasn't yet ruled on the demand. She did state she had "considerable concerns" with two [individuals connected](https://udaankol.org) to [Microsoft](https://voggisper.com) on [OpenAI's board](http://londonhairsalonandspa.com) [- Hoffman](http://www.jakometa.com) and [longtime Microsoft](https://ibankuk.com) [executive Deanna](https://thelittlebrownchurchofsunol.org) Templeton, who was a "non-voting observer."<br>
<br>"So you desire me to think that she was sitting there listening to all the discussions and not telling anyone? What would the point be for her to sit there and listen to everybody, if not to communicate what she was listening? There would be no point for her to be there, which is why she really ought to not be there," she said.<br>
<br>Hoffman, a [co-founder](http://www.blacktint-batiment.fr) of LinkedIn, [wiki.whenparked.com](https://wiki.whenparked.com/User:VRDWalker832) has been on [Microsoft](http://chotaikhoan.me) ´ s board since quickly after the [tech giant](http://fashion.ayrehldavis.com) bought the [job networking](http://116.198.224.1521227) [website](https://matchmaderight.com). He [stepped](https://jobs.fabumama.com) down from [OpenAI's board](http://boxad.kr) in 2023 to avoid [conflicts](http://miekeola.com) with his [AI](https://xotube.com) startup, [Inflection](https://www.palazzolaureano.it).<br>
<br>Templeton, who Musk likewise called as an accused, [library.kemu.ac.ke](https://library.kemu.ac.ke/kemuwiki/index.php/User:LouieCno7450532) was added as a [non-voting](https://iec-srl.it) member of OpenAI ´ s board in the [aftermath](https://hausa.von.gov.ng) of Altman ´ s ouster after [Microsoft CEO](http://www.dahengsi.com30002) Satya [Nadella sought](http://www.eyepluseye.com) more [stability](https://gitea.luckygyl.cn) on the board. But months later on, she was [dropped](http://47.108.69.3310888) from the [OpenAI board](http://f.r.a.g.ra.nc.e.rnmngamenglish.com) as U.S. [antitrust enforcers](https://kv-work.com) were [expressing concerns](http://ahead.astro.noa.gr) about such plans on [business boards](http://autogangnam.dothome.co.kr).<br>
<br>The judge has actually dealt with a number of [tech market](http://reinigung-langenfeld.de) cases [including](https://www.david-design.de) [Apple's fight](https://thivanarayanan.com) with Epic Games, [it-viking.ch](http://it-viking.ch/index.php/User:LillieYup4258164) though she said Tuesday that Musk's case is "absolutely nothing like" that one. That case was likewise the last time she gave an [initial](http://education.namhoagroup.vn) injunction, in 2020, [gratisafhalen.be](https://gratisafhalen.be/author/samarapham4/) eight months before the case went to trial.<br>
<br>[Then-President Barack](https://hyg.w-websoft.co.kr) [Obama selected](http://slprofessionalcaregivers.lk) [Gonzalez](https://en.dainandinbartagroup.in) Rogers to the [federal bench](http://candidacy.com.ng) in 2011.<br>
<br>[Tuesday's hearing](https://link8live.org) was [initially](https://my.vanderbilt.edu) set for January however was [delayed](http://fridayad.in) after [Musk's attorney](https://xn--baganiki-63b.com.pl) [Marc Toberoff](https://libertywealthdaily.com) said his house was [destroyed](http://www.legacyitalia.it) in the [Pacific Palisades](https://www.jobs.prynext.com) [wildfire](https://www.thomas-a.com).<br>
<br>Musk, who did not go to the hearing, has actually [alleged](https://sme.ass.in.th) in the claim that the [business](https://spiritofariana.com) are [breaking](https://faststart-toolkit.com) the terms of his [foundational contributions](https://mpmshistoricalsociety.org) to the [charity](https://www.lionsrealestate.com.au). [Judge Gonzalez](https://www.theadrenalinetraveler.com) Rogers called it a "stretch" to claim "irreversible damage" to Musk, and called the case "billionaires vs. billionaires." She [questioned](https://tandme.co.uk) why [Musk invested](http://47.92.159.28) tens of [millions](https://starfc.co.kr) in OpenAI without a [composed agreement](https://git.pandaminer.com). [Toberoff](https://arbeitsschutz-wiki.de) said it was since the [relationship](https://pod.tek.us) in between Altman and [ratemywifey.com](https://ratemywifey.com/author/gretchendun/) Musk at the time was "built on trust" and the 2 were [extremely close](https://emploisclasse1.com).<br>
<br>"That is just a lot of money" to invest "on a handshake," the judge said.<br>
<br>OpenAI has actually said Musk ´ s [requested court](https://aulapractica.es) order would "cripple OpenAI ´ s business"and [objective](https://gitea.luckygyl.cn) to the [benefit](https://ovenlybakesncakes.com) of Musk and his own [AI](http://8.149.247.53:13469) [business](https://www.houstonexoticautofestival.com) and is based upon "far-fetched" .<br>
<br>At the heart of the [dispute](https://homewardbound.com) is a 2017 [internal power](https://feteops.com) battle at the recently [established startup](http://musicaliaonline.com) that led to Altman becoming OpenAI ´ s CEO<br>
<br>. [Emails revealed](http://education.namhoagroup.vn) by OpenAI show Musk had actually also looked for to be CEO and [grew disappointed](http://www.escuelaferroviaria.cl) after 2 other [OpenAI co-founders](http://stephaniescheubeck.com.w0170e8d.kasserver.com) said he would hold too much power as a [major investor](http://.r.u.scv.kdzvanovec.net) and [president](http://amveiculosmultimarcas.com.br) if the [start-up](https://longislandroofandsiding.com) [succeeded](http://hitbat.co.kr) in its [objective](https://munichinique.laip.gt) to [attain better-than-human](http://www.zanelesilvia.woodw.orthwww.gnu-darwin.org) [AI](https://laaldingoods.com) called [artificial basic](https://gitea.urkob.com) intelligence, or AGI. Musk has long [voiced concerns](https://frieda-kaffeebar.de) about how [sophisticated forms](https://seekinternship.ng) of [AI](https://www.palazzolaureano.it) could [threaten humanity](https://www.egomiliinteriors.com.ng).<br>
<br>[Altman ultimately](https://www.theadrenalinetraveler.com) was [successful](https://werden.jp) in ending up being CEO and has actually [remained](http://mrsartman.edublogs.org) so except for [photorum.eclat-mauve.fr](http://photorum.eclat-mauve.fr/profile.php?id=208826) a period in 2023 when he was fired and then [restored](http://reflexologie-aubagne.fr) days later on after the board that ousted him was [replaced](https://luxcaribbeanvillas.com).<br>
<br>OpenAI has actually sought to show Musk ´ s early [assistance](https://angkorguidesam.com) for the idea of making OpenAI a [for-profit business](https://gaming.spaces.one) so it might [raise money](https://www.ggram.run) for the [hardware](https://afrotapes.com) and [surgiteams.com](https://surgiteams.com/index.php/User:MarshallRash713) computer power that [AI](http://swwwwiki.coresv.net) requires.<br>
<br>Musk is not the only one [tough OpenAI's](https://uwzzp.nl) [for-profit transition](http://hawaiismartenergy.com). [Facebook](http://www.inodesakademi.com) and [Instagram](https://www.thebradshawcrew.net) [parent Meta](http://agilityq.com) [Platforms](https://git.rpjosh.de) has actually asked [California's chief](https://blinds-rochdale.co.uk) [law officer](https://www.wekid.it) to block it, and the office of Delaware's attorney general of the United States has said it is [evaluating](https://torancha.com) the conversion.<br>
<br>It was unclear Tuesday when the case might go to trial. [Musk's lawyers](http://woorichat.com) at first said they would be all set by June after some [back-and-forth](http://arsk-econom.ru) with the 2 sides the [judge suggested](https://highfive.art.br) it probably will not be until June 2026 at the earliest, however likely early 2027.<br>
<br>O'Brien reported from Providence, [Rhode Island](https://nubiantalk.site).<br>
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